Splash Potions on SMP (Updated)
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Update: There has been some confusion about this topic, We have ONLY blocked SPLASH POTIONS. Splash potions are still enabled in the Arena's.

Normal potions will still work as usual.

So there has been many complaints about people getting killed by splash potions outside of SMP.


At this moment in time potions are blocked from everywhere except for PvP Arena.


Obviously this is inconvenient for those that want to use splash potions in their home, so we're looking for community feedback here.




Would you guys rather have splash potions enabled everywhere or just the arena's?

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The worst idea EVER

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Wait, now you can't use any potions anywhere except for PvP?

That's silly :/

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Feedback ;o

Potions enabled everywhere!

 

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Potions Everywhere 

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lol

So your saying before the got blocked, People could walk into your a shop and attack you xD lol :P

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Is it possible to disable

Is it possible to disable splash potions, but not regular potions? Then the people who want to use potions on themselves can

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How about instead of saying its the worst idea ever / its silly - after you have all been complaining about potions attacks, you just answer the question in the original post so we can make the server a magical happyland for you...

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Yeah, if it was possible to

Yeah, if it was possible to disable only splash potions and not normal ones then that would be best. Not really sure how that works. If that's not an option then i would vote having them only in pvp. Too many times where i would teleport to someone to trade and find myself in a hole getting hit by splash damage. 

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This answer hits the mark.

This answer hits the mark. Disable splash potions outside of the PvP arena.

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can't forget the mob arena

can't forget the mob arena

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Potions.

I guess that you could always disable negative potions outside of PvP arenas, or just disable splash potions. I like to make potions, but I do not care for PvPing so now I have no use for potions other than to sell them to people that do PvP, which isn't very many. You could also make the negative potions only harm mobs, such as swords and bows do outside of PvP.

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No just negative splash

No just negative splash potions should have no effect in pvp.
Edit: ... i meant in non pvp zones


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Well, I think potions should be enabled everywhere unless the player want's a no-potion area in there claim, If someone made or purchased a potion its only fair that they can use them anywhere, Who cares if you get attacked by a splash potion? I didn't even think you could kill people outside PvP? I just think people shouldn't be getting so angry over getting attacked by a potions, And then complaining to Staff... -.-

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The splash potions are what

The splash potions are what was letting people kill each other outside of pvp, that was the problem. People randomly killing other people to take their stuff.

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Thats a good idea or another

Thats a good idea or another idea is a comand that lets you enable splash potions from other players everywhere but pvp arena. (also a command that lets you be attacked so you can pvp everywhere would be awsome)


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Wow

Wow. I must say, you the people who disabled potions, are ignorant. This is has rendered chemist useless in Mob Arena and ruining the experience. I must say that your decision has been highly ignorant.

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Because a simple "can you

Because a simple "can you reallow potions in the mob arena" would have been too simple.

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This ^

also, the mob arena was overlooked and has now been updated to allow splash potions.

Thanks for your kind words.

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Your ignorant because potions are allowed in areana


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How do you have zero points? o.O

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Stop The Flaming

Could you all stop flaming one another? It's quite disrespectful and it shows that you guys cannot be mature when being asked about potions. Now all that was required of you is your opinion on this new idea and NOT to be rude towards each other.

Got any questions? Look through the support page or create a thread in the Support forums here

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Well...

Well disable all Splash Potions. 

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Why ban just potions?

If I am correct, arrows fired from dispensers can hurt players anywhere. Lava can be dumped on players underground or in your claim. Players can be shoved off cliffs. You can dig a deep pit, stand on a single block over the top, hold shift, and send a /tpahere. You can invite a player to test out your fancy piston door that turns out to be a cunningly disguised suffocation trap. You can drop sand on their head. You can lure hostile mobs behind their back.

Ban arrows, ban dispensers, remove lava, nuke fall damage, nuke suffocation, remove mobs. Say no to damage. Make death impossible. Then WoM SMP will be a happy place, with people swimming around the nether, hugging creepers, and not bothering to light their towns.

But please, please don't touch regular potions. Potions are highly useful outside of PvP. I personally carry a few fire resistance potions with me every time I go to the Nether, and I use a potion of strength right before I tackle cave-spider spawners.

The point is, there are so many other ways players can hurt each other besides weapons and potions, and potions can be used for constructive purposes. Preventing players from going around and relieving others of their hard-earned inventories and XP is important, but a hard-line "no potions" policy goes too far.

Regular potions (the ones you have to drink) should be kept completely unrestricted. Nobody can be affected by them without their consent. Splash potions should be restricted to use on mobs, just like swords and arrows. And if possible, implement a splash-potion switch (just like a PvP-switch) where users can choose whether to allow splash potions to be used on them.

I hope the staff of WoM can create a customized solution to this problem that does not require a total and complete ban of all potions altogether.

DISCLOSURE: I own a few potion shops on the server, and they provide the majority of my income. After the ban, people only buy harmful and healing potions, leaving the rest of my stock to sit there unpurchased.

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let me answer you answer with this answer

If H4X removes everything that can damage a player, they why not just change SMP (survival muit-player) to CMP (creative muit-player) cause that is what your saying. he just removed splash potions NOT bottle potions. now if people are falsely told about something and they die like "hey tp to me and you can get a diamond" and they do use the tpa to get there and die down a deep hole, they its on the person themselves and not WoM's fault. Passive and Hostile Mobs are to be on SMP or you just killed the whole idea of SMP. Arrows out of dispenser only take what half a heart away from you with no armour on so why remove it, its not going to kill you unless you are stupid and keep on going in front of the dispenser over and over again. Lava can only be placed in areas of the map that YOU claim only not anywhere else, sorry your point right there is invalid. i just see it as this, you want a server where you dont die and just build. i want to survive in a server with mobs everywhere. SMP= Survival. maybe you should look for a CMP server


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_mine_craft

That is a great answer.

You know you like minecraft when... (fill in blank cuz I'm lazy. ;P)

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I have to totally agree with _mine_craft on this one, it's funny to me that this is almost stemming into the current right to bare arms debate. Do we get rid of firearms because people are killing people with them, or do we just make them harder to be used, or do we just allow them to exist as is because people can kill people regardless.

My personal opinion on the matter is as such: to take away the potions because people kill with them is exactly like taking away pickaxes or other build utensils because people grief with them. Now that we've established that killing outside a pvp area is against the rules, instead of banning the potions, just ban the player using them. Much like griefing, if one griefs another's build then they get banned, simple as that. So, on the flip side if someone kills someone outside a pvp area in any way, they get banned, simple as that. There are countless ways to my understanding to record this sort of thing much like with griefing to show that someone was killed outside pvp.

So in closing, no banning potions or even limiting them, just make harsher penalties if someone does use them in a way that's against the rules...



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Huh

So, make it a bannable offence to kill other players in any way outside of the PvP arena?

Say, for example... drowning them?

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ha ha XD INTENTIONAL killings



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I dont care, just make

I dont care, just make chemists able to use in mob arena

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Fixed

Fixed

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I care only about the...

I care only about the good potions such as, Fire Resistance, Swiftness, Strength, and healing. I want there to be no splash potions so there can still be potions but none that can effect other players outside of pvp but in pvp i dont really care. Splash potions of healing can be not used at all really because poeple with be annoying and spam someone with instant healing splash potions and will also do the same with splash potions of Swiftness. Just please dont ban potions entirely. Okay?

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I agree

I agree because people ARE killing people randomly outside of pvp. Pvp is only an area where they could kill each other, other than that blocking potions (I think) is a good idea.

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yes ban splash potions

It will mean more work for admin and staff if U do not ban the potions as U will be foreva banning ppl who use them.... Especially when no staff R on.... Or when staff like sonardo go round killing ppl for points on the leaderboard..

And who is first on the leaderboard hmmm. ....wonders

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Negitive splash potions

Negitive splash potions should be intagrated with the pvp switch (if there is one)
Just the negative splash potions are the real problem not positive splash potions


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One problem that effects mobs

One problem that effects mobs that is cave spiders but this is good in my cave spider xp grinder setup that is in development. Luck me
one question are creeper destruction disabled?


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Creepers and Ghasts do not

Creepers and Ghasts do not cause terrain damage.